2005/01/28

Cop Threatens to Arrest Woman For Fuck Bush Bumper Sticker

First posted here http://sisterstalk.tblog.com

Denver police officer Sgt. Michael Karasek threatened to arrest Shasta Bates because she flaunted a "Fuck Bush" bumper sticker on her truck. One man confronted Shasta Bates while she stood inside a UPS store about her bumper sticker, saying it bothered him. He then went out to find Karasek.

Karasek then entered the UPS and threatened to arrest Bates if she didn't remove the sticker. Bates filed a complaint. Karasek will be disciplined, but specifics on how he will be disciplined weren't mentioned. I keep thinking I need a "Dumb Ass" category. What was this guy thinking? Did he think he would be able to bully Bates into submission just because he was a cop? Props to Shasta Bates! Thanks to SistersTalk reader Dawn for the tip.


Hmmm, maybe I should reconsider my "Bush Thinks You're Stupid" bumper sticker?

16 Comments:

Seems to me this would be an obscenity issue rather than a free-speech issue. In other words, I think the "Fuck" part of the sticker was the problem, not the "Bush" part. "Fuck Kerry" should have gotten the same reaction. 

Posted by brogonzo
1/28/2005 06:59:00 pm  
Either way, there was no justification for this officer to threaten her with arrest. 

Posted by angiekruger
1/28/2005 07:16:00 pm  
"I think the "Fuck" part of the sticker was the problem".

Strange. A good lot of prime time TV shows are full of "fucks". So, it's ok on TV, but not on bumper sticker? 

Posted by WhyNot
1/28/2005 07:28:00 pm  
WhyNot - if you mean their acting ability, I'd agree. But the FCC won't allow "fuck" to be said on broadcast television.

The only place where you can use the word "fuck" on TV would be subscriber-cable channels such as HBO. 

Posted by brogonzo
1/28/2005 07:30:00 pm  
"if you mean their acting ability, I'd agree".

LOL. Well, I've seen plenty of movies on American TV while living in Florida which profusely "fucked" loud and clear. Still, seems amazing one of the most used word in America leads one to be threatened of arrest.

I daresay your conclusion about IT being the culprit is not likely right. I doubt a cop would threaten to arrest a driver with a bumper sticker saying "FuckFrance.com". The driver would prolly get a medal for civism. Try it and let me know. 

Posted by WhyNot
1/28/2005 07:49:00 pm  
City Attorney Cole Finnegan said there were no city ordinances against displaying a profane bumper sticker.

Colorado ACLU Legal Director Mark Silverstein said the alleged threat of arrest clearly violates First Ammendment protection.

No doubt there will soon be a city ordinance put in place to take care of these little problems.  

Posted by Dianne
1/28/2005 07:57:00 pm  
phillipe,

i know someone who would volunteer for that rofl!!! 

Posted by angiekruger
1/28/2005 08:10:00 pm  
WhyNot -

Why on earth would I want to put a "FuckFrance" bumper sticker on my car?

If no law exists banning the usage of the word "fuck" in public, though, as Dianne points out, then by golly, the cop was wrong. 

Posted by brogonzo
1/28/2005 08:23:00 pm  
Angie,

"phillipe, i know someone who would volunteer for that rofl!!!".

:-) yeah, he probably has his whole car spray-painted with the slogan... 

Posted by WhyNot
1/28/2005 08:27:00 pm  
"Why on earth would I want to put a "FuckFrance" bumper sticker on my car?".

Just to test my theory, Brogonzo. But also as an analogy to what I said elsewhere about Christian Fundamentalist nutcases spreading their wings in the US.

Cruise BlogExplosion for a few hours a day for a month, and you'll see how many thousand websites are dedicated to FuckFrance.com and clones. It's become a national pastime on your side of the Atlantic. 

Posted by WhyNot
1/28/2005 08:33:00 pm  
Well, I do happen to disagree with French national policy on a couple key issues, but I'd hate to be lumped into the same category as the mental lightweights who are displaying "FuckFrance" on their cars or blogs or anything else.

Time out for just a second and let me straighten something out - I didn't come here to start fights, ok? I'm just trying to add another perspective to the discussion. If that's not okay, someone just say so. 

Posted by brogonzo
1/28/2005 08:36:00 pm  
Brogonzo,

Your perspective is always welcome. The whole point of this blog is to get an intelligent dicussion going, without the mudslinging, name calling, pettiness that goes on over at tblog.

I'm amazed at how long you've kept your cool, and, when you're not busy trying to start a fight and mudslinging, you actually have very intelligent arguments. But, you have to expect that when you have two sides who so firmly believe that the other side is wrong and just can't see what's going on right in front of their face, there will be some underlying hostility, Especially since you're basically the only one on your side. And I must say I'm quite enjoying this exchange between everyone. 

Posted by angiekruger
1/28/2005 09:06:00 pm  
Well, Angie, all things considered, I'm surprised and impressed that you have, too.

Hopefully certain other folks will pick up on the good-will vibe, too. 

Posted by brogonzo
1/28/2005 09:10:00 pm  
Brogonzo,

"Well, I do happen to disagree with French national policy on a couple key issues".

Good, Brogonzo. I disagree with our gov policies on a lot more than a couple of issues.

"but I'd hate to be lumped into the same category as the mental lightweights who are displaying "FuckFrance" on their cars or blogs or anything else.".

I didn't say *YOU* were in that category, Brogonzo. If I thought so, I'd already been using my very rich vocab of American insults. I was merely pointing out to you that, just like we have an endemic racial problem in France directed against our 5 million (10% of the) population of arabs, the US have a rampant anti-French issue doubled with a rampant christian fundamentalist one. I'm not insinuating in the least you're part of those groups, only that those groups are taking over America, or just about - they are NOT just fringe cases of nutcases.

I did not say (and if I did, point me to it, and I'll grovel in apologies) anywhere that YOU were part of those catergories.

"Time out for just a second and let me straighten something out - I didn't come here to start fights, ok? I'm just trying to add another perspective to the discussion. If that's not okay, someone just say so.".

It's not only perfectly ok with me, but I welcome your different point of view. At least, unlike what we regularly encounter (speaking on behalf of myself and Dianne on our respective private blogs), you make valid points and we can agree to argue with factual evidence to support our points. 

Posted by WhyNot
1/28/2005 09:18:00 pm  
Some years ago we took the kids to Disney World. My son was wearing a t-shirt with Bart Simpson on a Skateboard and flipping off, oh I can't think of his name... the bully kid, who was behind him.

I didn't think anything of it, but as we entered the park, he was pulled asside and a small sticker was placed on his shirt over Bart's middle finger...which of course drew your eye to the sticker and would make anyone notice that Bart was giving what's his name the finger. Really stupid.



 

Posted by surrogate
1/29/2005 03:57:00 pm  
"a small sticker was placed on his shirt over Bart's middle finger".

LOL, how much more ridiculously prim and proper can they get, eh? It's a wonder Blacks are not sprayed with white paint so as not to spoil the Disney Park landscape. 

Posted by WhyNot
1/29/2005 04:07:00 pm  

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